"Perhaps (Oberg) is unaware," Temple went on, "that the differential curvature of the earth variously distorts distances shown on maps. Credulous scholars, like Young and Temple, were taken in and through them a whole generation has swallowed the false mythology of aliens from the Dark Sirius Companion. This article appeared in Fortean Times. A recent newsletter from my local astronomy association still found the Dogon and their mysterious knowledge of Sirius B worth mentioning. The review was indeed consequently modified in parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may have misinterpreted. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. None were detected, That was not surprising since, judging from the age and energy of the stars in the Sirius system, astronomers believe it is unlikely that any earthlike planets could exist there long enough for life to emerge and develop. Sirius Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. A Search for Faint Companions to Nearby Stars Using the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2,. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? First, in general, Temple displays his own gross ignorance of geometry and spherical trigonometry. Moon is traveling through Cancer today. The antiquity of the Dogon astronomy is not so obvious as ancient astronaut enthusiasts claim but neither has it been disproved. To be specific they sound like the kinds of astronomical conclusions one might draw from studying the heavens through a small portable telescope. Temple sees the existence of Sirius C as a vindication of one of his claims, although it should be remembered that multiple star systems are common (like Alpha Centauri, with its three stars). The brightest star in the sky is Sirius, now called Sirius A. They conclude that Temple was very keen to please his mentor, who believed in extraterrestrial beings from Sirius. The assyrians called Sirius Kal-bu-sa mas (the Dog of the Sun) and in Chaldea, it was known as Kak-shisha (The Dog Star That Leads) Known History of the Dogon According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. In his 1998 revised edition, Temple was quick to point out the new discussions in scientific circles about the possible existence of Sirius C, which seemed to make Griaules claims even more spectacular and accurate. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. Why would Europeans feel compelled that they needed to discuss astronomy with such a primitive tribe and why would this transfer of knowledge that only lasted 5 weeks have such an impact on the Dogan people that they would include it in their cultural practices? On top of that, there is another star, Sirius B, orbiting at an average distance of about 20 AU (1 AU is the distance between the Earth and Sun). interpreter. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. Astronomers Carl Sagan and Ian Ridpath, for example, have suggested that the modern astronomical aspects of the complex Dogon mythology entered the lore only recently, probably shortly before the myths were written down in the 1930s. Even if you allow for a much higher biological mutation rate on any Sirian planet compared to the Earth, it still isnt enough time. (2004). seem curious. This step was taken by others, particularly Temple, in the Sixties and Seventies. Because Sirius B moves from 8 to 31 AU distance from Sirius A, it is unlikely that planets orbiting Sirius A would have stable orbits. had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely Copyright 19922023. to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible they were not told by beings from the star Sirius.". [2][1] The book was first published by St. Martin's Press in 1976. either in daily life or in ritual [to the Dogon]. Obviously, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then! 30-31. The Dogon and Sirius. A review of the astronomical, cultural, and anthropological sides of this issue might be timely. According to Griaule and The alleged visitors from outer space Subscribe to eSkeptic: our free email newsletter and get great podcasts, videos, reviews and articles from Skeptic magazine, announcements, and more in your inbox once or twice a week. I suspect not.". The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) implausible notions such as the claim that the Dogon got their knowledge contact with some ugly, amphibious* The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them. The Dogon Revisited Used under aCreative Commons license. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and <> He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. If I were alone in picking on Temple's thesis, he might be able to argue a case for ad hominem persecution. "Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel As anthropologists have known for a long time, primitive tribes have a remarkable talent for absorbing interesting new stories into their traditional mythology. According to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. Sounds like you're grasping at straws. Furthermore, there had been a Carl. Qr*OJhiglNKc}{9GdA Mlt^+nR-Sp-f.y-`Pg##uAQDu&W&HM~IK{%uAM'bRV A\Z.4gAHU*j,H( rPaf@)2j Tom Sever's "The Obsession with the Star Sirius," and editor Ron Oriti's "On Not Taking it Seriously." I disagree wit deeee72. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. There are innocent available explanations: typographical error or miscopied notes, for example. African Observers of the Universe: The Sirius Question. In, Ortiz de Montellano, Bernard R. 1996. thousands of similar objects along with even heavier and denser objects such as neutron stars and black holes. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. ", Investigating Found in the constellation after which it is named, it is about 25,000 light years from the sun and 42,000 light years from the centre of the Milky Way. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. McDaid, Liam. Conversations With Could Sirius B have been a red giant a few thousand years ago? Zeta Reticuli 2 (with about the same temperature and mass as the Sun) is another candidate. [7] Others, such as Marcel Griaule's daughter Genevive Calame-Griaule and an anthropologist, Luc de Heusch, came to criticize Van Beek's dismissal as "political" and riddled with "unchecked speculation", demonstrating a general ignorance of Dogon esoteric tradition. Dieterlen the Dogon also name a companion star, po tolo "Digitaria The X symbol inside the oval is Sirius A, The oval itself is labeled Umlaufbahn von Sirius B, or Orbit of Sirius B. Pretty convincing. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. And from what star system does the visitor come? The position of the This is only a stellar stone's throw by galactic standards and Sirius is only twice as far away from our solar system as are the nearest based his account on an interview with one person, Ambara, and an No other anthropologist supports their opinions. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Some astronomers speculate that the white dwarf Sirius B might have been a flaming red giant only 2000 years ago although current astrophysical theories decree that any such transformation in less than 100,000 years is impossible. One additional disturbing note: That distance has been computed based on a true geodetic oblate spheroid, but even assuming a flat surface would only have introduced an error of a few tenths of one percent at most (Temple obviously didn't know that, or he wouldn't have asserted that measurements even less accurate than that were proof that ancients took Earth's sphericity into account.). More recent research suggests that the contaminator was Griaule himself. In 1967, Temple began work on the thesis that became The Sirius Mystery. The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." September 1976 saw Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. Ancient Temple's book is indeed extremely long and many other researchers have echoed Asimov's assertion that it is "unreadable." Ancient astronauts entrepreneur Erich von Daniken endorses and adopts Temple's explanations in his latest book, Von Daniken's Proof. ", Temple replied in Fate: "The pattern published in my book was drawn by a professional cartographer who earns his living by drawing reliable maps for an international corporation." All rights reserved. This is strange, because one would think that it would be a major discovery in anthropology. With this, the Dogon mystery comes crashing down. Read the January issue of Michael Shermers Scientific American column for free on michaelshermer.com: Kool-Aid Psychology: How optimism trumped realism in the positive-psychology movement. Webplanet earth. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. "There is some evidence," he points out, "that the Dogon like to frame pictures with an ellipse, and that Temple may be mistaken about the claim that in Dogon mythology the planets and Sirius-B move in elliptical orbits." Saturn is not, as the Dogons insist, the farthest planet in the solar system. It seems that Temples ideas are still popular among practitioners of pseudoarcheology, as well as with the general public. But didn't Isaac Asimov check over the book for just such factual errors, as the publisher claims? The author mentions that he could have made the book much longer but restrained himself "lest I blow this book up into a pufball of miscellaneous odds and ends" -- which prompted one reviewer to remark that Temple had stopped much too late to avoid that fate. have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in For example, he claims that the Dogon have a drawing like the one in Figure 1. stars to the sun, the Alpha Centauri system. Nigel Appleby whose book Hall of the Gods was withdrawn from publication has admitted to being tremendously influenced by Temples Sirius Mystery. Bullard, Thomas. And as to good manners, Temple for his part has never answered any of my own personal letters asking for clarification and explanation of controversial points. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule. Van Beek states that this creates a major problem for Griaules claims. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. Further, "The fact that the Dogon do not talk of another planet with rings beyond Saturn [i.e., Uranus, whose rings were discovered in 1977--and the rings of Jupiter weren't discovered until after Sagan's book was written, although they would have been clearly visible to any arriving extraterrestrial spacecraft] suggests to me that their informants were European, not extraterrestrial." The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. Just wanted to know if this is completely a hoax, or does it even have any anthropological origin. No such nebula is seen. Although we can occasionally claim victory (are there any alchemists left? The book's advertising blurb quotes prolific science writer Isaac Asimov, who says, "I couldn't find any mistakes in this book. The immunity of pseudoscientists to criticism is well known to skeptics, yet I was curious. New evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. History Debunked then goes on to demonstrate the type of pseudo-scientific nonsense this has lead to by providing a link to an Ethnomathematics paper and reading out its conclusion. I wonder. Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. As Picknett and Prince have been able to show, Temples arguments are often based on erroneous readings of encyclopdia entries and misrepresentations of ancient Egyptian mythology. "He sent me the manuscript which I found unreadable. And does the Dogon mythology ever really say that Nommo, the founder sigui, held by the Dogon every sixty years. What about Sirius? Temple's theory is heavily based on his interpretation of the work of ethnographers Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. If a European Sirius B was first observed in 1862, and had been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds. due to quantities of melanin (Welsing, F. C. 1987. by Philip Coppens. no conclusions of any kind." Sirius B without the need of a telescope because of their special eyesight Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The former study also concluded that while a triple system for Sirius could not be fully eliminated, the probability was low. The assyrians called Sirius Kal-bu-sa mas (the Dog of the Sun) and in Chaldea, it was known as Kak-shisha (The Dog Star That Leads) Known History of the Dogon According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. Classical mythology has been a Rorschach test into which people have projected nearly any notion that appealed to them. African thought. %PDF-1.4 But here's the rub: there is no archaeological evidence that the specific references to the twin hidden companions of Sirius are anywhere near that old. The star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. Robert Temple, who spent eight years studying mythology, is convinced that he can trace the Sirius-B information back to the Sumerians. G. Stein (Amherst, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1996), pp. Could a remote African people have gained esoteric knowledge about the sky without having telescopes? If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Griaule and Dieterlen first described their findings in an article published in French in 1950, but they included no comment about how extraordinary the Dogon knowledge of the invisible companions was. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. The brightest star in the sky is Sirius, now called Sirius A. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. "The ancient peoples were not concealing information from us out of spite," he writes. Clearly the Dogons (in common with many other cultures) were fascinated by Sirius, probably because its position in the sky was crucial to successful agriculture (it's the only star they have a name for.) Webplanet earth. 68-70. He shows a total ignorance or disregard for almost every fact in my book, and there is hardly a single thing in his review which is remotely accurate." found no evidence they knew Sirius was a double star or that Sirius B is Ridpath asserts. (OK, I'll bite--but if such a star is not discovered, Temple has risked no converse conclusions. Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? the Dogon. Figure 2. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. ), many debunked issues keep rising from the dead like vampires springing from their tombs. WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. The oldest traces of life on Earth go back to about that time. ", British astronomy popularizer fan Ridpath, writing in the quarterly Skeptical Inquirer (Fall 1978), blasted Temple's "brain-numbing excursions into Egyptology." Print versions available in Dutch, Russian, Japanese, and Korean. by Liam McDaid. It's almost certainly a hoax. Appleby also believes there exists a modern arrogance that cannot countenance the idea that ancient civilisations might have been scientifically superior. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. Or, Griaule's account may reflect his own interests more than that of WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. Also, why would the Dogan people not divulge where they received such recent knowledge of transfer if they had of gotten this knowledge from Europeans. Sagan suggests, however, that that civilization was WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. that by the time Griaule arrived, the Dogon may have had a grounding in 20th Sirius was already the subject of a mystery concerning the traditional lore of the Dogon tribe of Mali, near Timbuktu in western Africa. Dogon to explain their beliefs. Y%gbsPFur[%X7Sz In explaining his role Asimov reveals another dimension of Temple's scholarship. Paranormal, ed. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. Based on Carrolls website (skepdic.com), the Dictionary is the definitive short-answer debunking of nearly every thing skeptical. The Dogon and Sirius. In 1991, Van Beek led a team of anthropologists to Mali and declared that they found absolutely no trace of the detailed Sirius lore reported by the French anthropologists. History Debunked then goes on to demonstrate the type of pseudo-scientific nonsense this has lead to by providing a link to an Ethnomathematics paper and reading out its conclusion. Such assimilation occurs most frequently when the subject is one of particular interest to a people -- as Sirius is to the Dogons. Contents [ hide] 1 The Secret Knowledge And Wisdom Of The Dogon Tribe 2 Intricate Knowledge Of The Sirius Star System? But even after hundreds of pages of myths and interpretations Temple fails to make a connection between ancient Egypt and the modern Dogons; instead he "assumes" it. In reply Temple produces evidence for the great antiquity of the Sirius cult. Temple offered another line of reasoning. from black Egyptians who had telescopes. with the bright star Sirius (sigu tolo, "star of Sigui"), called To recapitulate: Griaule claimed to have been initiated into the secret mysteries of the male Dogon, during which they allegedly told him of Sirius (sigu tolo in their language) and its two invisible companions. A dynamical study published in 1995, based on anomalous perturbations of Sirius B (suggestive of the star being gravitationally influenced by another body) concluded that the presence of a third star orbiting Sirius could not be ruled out. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. "wished to affirm the complexity of African religions and questioned (I must confess I've felt that way about some other people, tool). Oberg also says that the Dogon were not an isolated tribe and that a member might have acquired knowledge about Sirius B while abroad and later passed it on to the tribe. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. The ancient records are filled with unanswered astronomical questions -- including the "red Sirius" and the possible Sumerian Ea-Oannes references to the spectacular Vela-X supernova. We need more reliable evidence -- especially theories that can be tested. One example: "If a Sirius-C is ever discovered and found to be a red dwarf, I will conclude that the Dogon information has been fully validated." Inevitably one must ask, if the Dogons had heard good stories about Sirius from other sources, would they ignore them or would they quickly adopt them into their own cultural myths? A revised edition was published in 1998 with the new subtitle New scientific earth as a spherical body in space and projections upon it envisaged as part ofthe Sirius tore." by Liam McDaid. WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. Other ancient astronomical records make no mention of Sirius being red. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? But from whom? At least three are farther and at least one of them has rings too. WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . One group says the Dogon got their information from aliens from the Sirian system called Nommos. Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. The proof is supplied by (the Odyssey), where Helios is said to possess 7 herds of 50 cows each and 7 herds of 50 sheep, a transparent allegory of the days and nights of the year.") Concludes Sagan, "There are too many loopholes, too many alternate explanations for such a myth to provide reliable evidence of past extraterrestrial contact. ), Another example: "The Dogon also mention a period of rotation of Sirius- Bone yearthis Try my free online Rune Readings! by Philip Coppens. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. Ask about whatever you want with our Free Rune Readings! The mystery of the ancient "red" Sirius also remains baffling. The aliens came here Also, in the 1980s and 1990s, anthropologist Walter van Beek could find no evidence that the Dogon possessed knowledge about Sirius B today.9 But more enlightening is the fact that Griaule studied astronomy in Paris and brought star maps with him to Mali. The stars in this group are too young only a few tens of millions of years for planets with life and civilization to have developed. It is also possible to conclude that such a star could in no way be responsible for the flurry of sightings from the 1920s, it would be too faint and too close to Sirius A to have ever been seen by visual observers.[17]. He certainly did not have permission to use that statement as part of the promotion, I'11 just have to be even more careful hereafter.". These same myths, Temple claims, identify a planet circling that star as the home of Nommo, an alien creature who founded the Dogon civilization. How is that the Dogan tribe has a culture that combines elements from 3 different ancient traditions "rituals of Judaism, practices of ancient Egypt, and a symbolic cosmology that's closely resembles Buddhism? Knowledge of the stars is not important To Temple, this proved that "geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the Given that the French stayed in their territory for five weeks and had several local guides, it would not be surprising if they shared some astronomical knowledge during that time. They all have one thing in common: enormous monsters. ;p7D) Finally, he asked me point-blank if I could point out any errors in it and partly out of politeness, partly to get rid of him, and partly because I had been able to read very little of the book so that the answer was true, I said I could not point out any errors. The biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Van Beek. The Dogon also hold a big sigui ceremony every 60 years, which some interpret as representing the period of time it takes Sirius B to go around Sirius A. interesting that the Greek Sirius is Seirios.". I published, showed the distances to be nowhere close, in error by tens of miles, at least ten percent -- hardly "immense accuracy. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. The Dogon. answer is that they got this information from amphibious aliens from outer What about the fact that Sirius was recorded to be red in ancient records? He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. The Dogon and Sirius. Temple claims his expert cartographer found these distances "nearly equal." century technological matters brought to them by visitors from other parts This would have wreaked havoc on the climate of any planets orbiting Sirius A. The obviously advanced astronomical knowledge must have come from somewhere, but is it an ancient bequest or a modern graft? of their culture, came from Sirius -- which is at the crux of Temple's reconstruction? Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. In the 1930s, when their research was carried out, Sirius B was known to have existed, even though it was only photographed in 1970. 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