Your email address will not be published. He was right to worry, state officials later said. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? Glenn Flothe, AST. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. I operated behind a work persona. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. CINDY: It was a black And I was just running. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. CINDY: Yes. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? CINDY: Some times they were. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. So its early in the morning In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. And brown socks. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. The Butcher Baker Minisode. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! All rights reserved. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. Im not going to help you do that, all right? FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. FLOTHE: Youre pointing at Figure Number 21. Darla was an exceptionally intelligent woman with a masters degree in education who made her living by tutoring school children; she was also a devout Christian who believed in God and the sanctity of marriage with all of her heart and soul. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. So he shows up Sunday night, then. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. "Good riddance to him.". Sometime between 71 to 73 Robert began to murder young women. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. And he had called me and I slept through it. Apparently youre bothered by this? FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. He was really sweet. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. CINDY: Yep. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. What was your reaction when you first read the script? Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. This is a very intense film. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. And it may not even be in there. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. CINDY: About ten minutes. FLOTHE: Thank you. Like a little Datsun station wagon. As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. Hes got like frog warts on his face. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. Buck teeth. It was super fun and really quick. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. Or was it some other color? CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? Were the lights on or off? "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. Required fields are marked *. CINDY: He just drove by. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When will it be released? Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? FLOTHE: How did you know this? A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. And the reality of it is were all human. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. This looks black but its actually blue. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. FLOTHE: OK. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? Cindy Paulson was just 17 years old when she moved to Anchorage Alaska. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. Hes amazing. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. CINDY: A little moustache. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. I absolutely adore him. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. I saw him the next day, Sunday. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. CINDY: Yeah. CINDY: Uh huh. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. Its a over shirt. CINDY: No. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) Police soon picked the killer up for questioning, but when it came down to it, a mild mannered baker with a rap sheet was still more believable in the early eighties than a half naked, handcuffed and barefooted teenaged sex worker. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. To the left is the basement. View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. Thats not all he said, of course. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? CINDY: Thats it. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. CINDY: Uh huh. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! No problem. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Were all connected. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. Be sure and look at all six. I really respect that. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. FLOTHE: Um hmm. [Installment Three]. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! FLOTHE: I hope not. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. Its way down on the bottom. He was also an avid hunter. Every time it was in my face. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. 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